Friday, June 12, 2009

Ground-breaking survey of shapes, sizes, and hardness of love sticks.

One commenter to Korea Beat's post about the abusive teacher in Ulsan put up links from his own blog, where he has collected pictures of the assorted weaponry---"love sticks"---his Korean coworkers take to class. There are two photogalleries, here and here. My favorite is the goddamn plastic baseball bat.



Whether they're actually used for beatings, for noise-making, or simply for intimidation---a little of all three, from what I've seen---that so many teachers go to class armed does raise some questions about methodology and the student-teacher relationship. As NSETs we have our "affection" for students and our methodology challenged quite frequently, though I wonder why, if these things are so important, why domestic teachers aren't held accountable.

My apologies for the ambiguous title, I know it will attract people looking for something else. Most of you came here wanting to learn more about the "love stick" set at Dasarang Chicken, but unfortunately I don't have any follow up on that beyond my original findings: "it's really good."

18 comments:

Roboseyo said...

And here I thought Brian was finally going to do a hard-hitting expose on Korean penis size statistics.

I imagine the selection of a teacher's individual lovestick being a process similar to Harry Potter in Ollivander's wand shop, back in the first Harry Potter movie.

nb said...

You stick 35+ Korean children who have no sense of discipline instilled in them by parents who do not raise them how to behave properly then stick them in a hot and stuffy or cold as hell classroom and they are not going to behave or listen to the teacher(s). In western countries, children who act up in class are first disciplined in class. Next, they are taken to the school office for a dressing down (pun intended for Korea). Then they are suspended. This is not how things are done in Korea. The parents will come to the school and complain about the harch treatment on little Min-shik/Chul-soo/insert spawn's name.
The teachers need the sticks as a sign of authority and for shock and awe effect. 35+ students in a classroom is simply too much.

Anonymous said...

I've definitely seen the gigantic wooden spoons and drumsticks around at my school.

Additionally, there are a few that have novelty love sticks. One has a tiny fist at the end, though its kind of like one of those tiny plastic squeeze toys. I'm not quite sure if she is going for irony or not. Another similar one has a plastic caw paw at the end.

Stephen Beckett said...

"You stick 35+ Korean children who have no sense of discipline instilled in them by parents who do not raise them how to behave properly then stick them in a hot and stuffy or cold as hell classroom and they are not going to behave or listen to the teacher(s). In western countries, children who act up in class are first disciplined in class. Next, they are taken to the school office for a dressing down (pun intended for Korea). Then they are suspended. This is not how things are done in Korea. The parents will come to the school and complain about the harch treatment on little Min-shik/Chul-soo/insert spawn's name."

Wow - you sound like a really well-balanced and caring individual.

nb said...

Steve Bee, you sound like a retard. You cut and paste my post and instead of commenting on it, move straight for the ad hominum. That's latin, son; you'll want to look it up. Since you are new here, you get a pass. But if you take the time to read Brian's blog, you might find that the comment section is where individuals with direct experience in Korea and some with many many years invested in Korea come to discuss Brian's posts. Many times there are diferences of opinion and the commenter is often challenger by another commenter on the content of the comment (see Kushibo). If you have any point in my comment to challenge, please do. But sir, you just came off as a dullard.

Stephen Beckett said...

"Steve Bee, you sound like a retard. You cut and paste my post and instead of commenting on it, move straight for the ad hominum. That's latin, son; you'll want to look it up. Since you are new here, you get a pass. But if you take the time to read Brian's blog, you might find that the comment section is where individuals with direct experience in Korea and some with many many years invested in Korea come to discuss Brian's posts. Many times there are diferences of opinion and the commenter is often challenger by another commenter on the content of the comment (see Kushibo). If you have any point in my comment to challenge, please do. But sir, you just came off as a dullard."

That would be 'ad hominem', genius, and I am quite certain I don't need you to teach me a single solitary thing about Aristotelian rhetoric, thanks. I was not aiming to form a rebuttal to your argument (such as it was) but more to criticize you directly for what I perceive to be a flaw in your character. You see, I don't take kindly to bolshy know-it-alls stereotyping swathes of young people in order to justify violence and aggression towards them. I know you think that there are now 'rules of the internet' whereby you can instantly disown any comment that you make by citing 'ad hominum' to any suggestion that your opinion may be due to your failings as a person, but I'm afraid I'm not going to play that game.

In my (years) of experience in Korea, I have seen nothing to suggest that Korean parents are any less capable of raising disciplined and well-rounded children, and suggestions to the contrary usually seem to stem from borderline racism and bitterness. However, due in some part to a hangover from the days of military dictatorship, schools are still organised along overly authoritarian lines, which some teachers believe gives them leave to beat and harass their charges. It is completely unacceptable and it has to stop. There is no justification for it.

baekgom84 said...

While I'm not opposed to (light) use of the love stick, I think that Korean kids are generally much better disciplined and well-behaved than kids back home. Can you imagine what classes would be like back home with 40+ kids in them?? You'd be hard pressed to find a teacher in the whole country willing to take that assignment on!

nb said...
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nb said...

Steve Bee, I just read your blog and it is official: you are a retard and and a class 1 hypocrite. You talk about dealing with the "CUNTS" at immigration? You promise to regale readers with informative pieces on:
1."the history of North and South Korea's petty border disputes."
Oh, are the petty? Wonderful insight professor.
2. "what a set of cunts Korea's previous seven or eight presidents were."
Park, Jeong-hee included? I think not.
3. "the size of my balls."
Sounds like you, sir, are the one with the profound insight into the Republic of Korea including an indepth study of your testicles.
You sound like the spawn of a fishmonger at Billingsgate fish market and wife.

Stephen Beckett said...

"Steve Bee, I just read your blog and it is official: you are a retard and and a class 1 hypocrite. You talk about dealing with the "CUNTS" at immigration? You promise to regale readers with informative pieces on:
1."the history of North and South Korea's petty border disputes."
Oh, are the petty? Wonderful insight professor.
2. "what a set of cunts Korea's previous seven or eight presidents were."
Park, Jeong-hee included? I think not.
3. "the size of my balls."
Sounds like you, sir, are the one with the profound insight into the Republic of Korea including an indepth study of your testicles.
You sound like the spawn of a fishmonger at Billingsgate fish market and wife."

NB: Rather than turn Brian's blog in to a battleground, I will just counter your baffling accusations above by saying that *I* have also read *your* blog, and, of the many qualities that I am sure you possess, neither charisma nor mental agility are at the foremost in its heady mix of petulance and borderline child pr0n.

Darth Babaganoosh said...

my dad can beat up your dad.
well, you have a small weiner
doody!
poopy-face!
blah blah blah

Nik Trapani said...

my dad can beat up your dad.
This is not true. Your dad couldn't beat up my grandmother (Kim, Woodstock, et al. 1997)

well, you have a small weiner
I resent you suggesting that any of us have penes. (That's English, look it up)

doody!
Fart

poopy-face!
weinbag!

blah blah blah
Here, I'd have to agree, though with some exception. Specifically the exclusion of a 4th blah from this triad.

Muckefuck said...

Stevie Bee

I would rather read NB's blog than read your witty comebacks. What is child prUn? If you mean child porn, then you are an asshole.

Stephen Beckett said...

"Stevie Bee

I would rather read NB's blog than read your witty comebacks. What is child prUn? If you mean child porn, then you are an asshole."

Then I suppose that makes me an 'asshole'. If you would rather read NB's blog than do ANYTHING, then there's little I can or would do to help you. Have fun luxuriating in his not-at-all-moronic-petulant-and-obnoxious wit, won't you?

Muckefuck said...

Stevie Bee

"If you would rather read NB's blog than do ANYTHING"

Learn to read, moron. I said I would rather read his blog than your comments. There is nothing in my post that says I would rather read his blog over all other things.

"then there's little I can or would do to help you"

I didn't ask for your help, you condescending prick.

"Have fun luxuriating in his not-at-all-moronic-petulant-and-obnoxious wit, won't you?"

Since when do I need your approval of what I read? Go to hell.

Stephen Beckett said...

Okay, NB, whatever you say...

nb said...

That's right, bitch.

Brian said...

Okay, we're finished here.