Thursday, December 11, 2008

Korean students complain about Jeonbuk-funded study-abroad program.

This is a story from November that I just saw on The Jeonju Hub. The article from the Jeonbuk Ilbo is in Korean and I'm not good enough to make sense of it, but here's how TJH summarized it:

A Jeollabukdo agency placed over 600 university students in Canadian schools, but the students are saying that they were misinformed an improperly prepared. They had to study a bunch of curriculum that was of no help to them when they got to Canada and had their eyes opened. The government footed part of the bill at about (US)$10,000, while the families put up about $16,000--per student! The students, now in Canada, are saying the agency abused their trust and that of the province, and the money and prep-study turned out to be an irrelevant waste.

Hmmm, interesting.

20 comments:

Roboseyo said...

What? A recruiting/placement company that only cares about the placement fee, and doesn't give a rip about the students' experience, success, or performance afterwards? I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!

Nik Trapani said...

Well, I hope these students learned their lesson...Never go to Canada.

Kelsey said...

I'm right there with you, Roboseyo.

Brian said...

When I was in the US back in 2002, um . . . "between schools" and back to managing a McDonald's, I made friends with three Korean women who came to work there. They had signed up for some work-abroad program where they'd get to improve their English by working in the tourism sector (hotel, resort, etc.), and then have a month to travel freely on their own. It was much to their disappointment that they were instead placed in a McDonald's, living together in a tiny apartment designed for one, and stuck in suburban Pittsburgh with little to do beyond walk to Starbucks to take a bus to Target. I felt horrible for them.

The name slips my mind at the moment, but I'll have to dig it up when I get home. It also placed four or five Korean guys at another McDonald's my boss owned, who were also living in one apartment with a Korean girl. (She was REALLY REALLY HOT, though. God damn. I should look her up. Shit.) The two McDonald's also owned by my boss brought in workers from Thailand, Taiwan, and parts of Africa in similar programs (not sure if it's the same company, though).

Muckefuck said...

Fuck you Nik Trapani--what's wrong with Canada? Go back to fucking sheep.

Muckefuck said...

I wonder if these Koreans were informed that they have to learn French in school. Good luck to them if they are coming in at high school.

Ms Parker said...

Cripes! Samuel's bitterness strikes again! I think Nik was being sarcastic... and not anti-Canadian.

It's disheartening that programs like this still exist. Is there anyone who is actually in charge of this? They've obviously managed to dupe a lot of people with this scam, and I can only hope that someone, somehow will take them to court or something for it.

Muckefuck said...

Ms.Parker--my bitterness strikes again? Justify that

Nik Trapani said...

Christ. I have so many comebacks I just don't know where to begin. I'll just write a bunch and you can pick your favorite one...
1. If I had known someone was going to take that so personally, I wouldn't have written that, I would have written "Don't go to where Samuel is apparently from"
2. I'm not Kiwi, where I'm from we don't fuck sheep, we get more joy from fucking the country on our northern border.
3. Do you know San Juan Islands?
4. I merely meant that since the US has a Visa Waiver for Koreans now, Koreans don't need to go to Canada anymore.
5. What's wrong with Canada? Currently I'd say a government in the throes of collapse
6. What's wrong with Canada? You still haven't managed to kick out the french
7. What's wrong with Canada? You still haven't managed to kick out the English
8. What's wrong with Canada? You marched into our country and burned down the White House. And We just can't have you doing that again.
9. I wasn't saying Canada was bad. I was just pretending to be a racist Canadian.
10. Why would I hate Canada? I am, afterall, living in Australia's canada.

Seriously, it was just a piss take. It's not like Canadians don't love to hate the US too. Jeeeeeez.

Unknown said...

I'm not American, I'm Korean, posting from my friend's computer, but having dealt with the scourge of Canucks on this end of the 'ninsula for so long I can offer up a few examples. (Though I say most of this with my tongue firmly in my cheek--I have met many Canadians who I love dearly none of them derive their identities from the mad nationalism I get from the others. I find it interesting how the most nationalist, conservative people I have met outside of Korea are from Canada.)

To Nik, there's also:
- Though the government still has a connection to the British commonwealth and none to France, there are people in the country who call themselves 'French' but none who call themselves 'British' though that would be both more apt and less upsetting to the real French.
- There's also the Canadian tendency to blame individual Americans on the fact that Canadian media CHOOSES to cover so much stuff from the US. When the media in foreign countries covers the US elections for example, why would you blame people in the US for that? Are Americans deciding what their marketing directors have determined is the best material to cover?
- Korea students will be upset when they realize mere location doesn't change who they are and embracing Canadian nationalism doesn't automatically make you responsible for the great deeds of individual Canadians. Like...um..."Heart of Gold" or the idea that "Canada is great (like Korea) because it has four seasons".

- It's really easy and simpleminded to hate a whole country--which is what 96% of Canadians do to the U.S. and ALL its 300 million people, and my doing so in return, about Canada, is merely ironic. Interestingly I have never seen a Canadian say anything of the sort to a minority from the US. Upon several "fucking America" statements from Canadians I asked "So you hate Blacks and Gays and Asians and Natives and..." and was told "that's not what I meant".

Brian said...

Wow, all this from one sentence by Nik that I thought was pretty funny and pretty clearly tongue-in-cheek.

Let's keep the rest of the discussion civil and relevant to the initial article.

Unknown said...

Sorry Brian. How are things?

Brian said...

LOL, okay I guess. I'm busy and tired, but doing all right. How about you?

Unknown said...

I'm well. I enjoy the blog. Keep up the good work!

Muckefuck said...

Nik--Blah blah blah.
Wow, I have so many words to say, but since none of what you wrote makes much sense, why bother?
My favorite is number 9, pretending to be a racist Canadian. Thanks for that.
and double thanks for assuming that Canadians hate Americans. That's bullshit.
Now hop back on that sheep, Ozzie.

Muckefuck said...

Geoff--you are not Korean. Your English is too good. Nice try. You have never been to Canada. So until you have lived here, keep your parochial views to yourself.
You have met a handful of Canadians. I respect and admire the US, and have no problem seeing the bullshit in my own country.
Now, none of this since Nik's post has anything to do with why those Koreans in the article might be unhappy in Canada.

Muckefuck said...

Brian--tongue in cheek? That's not how I read it.

Darth Babaganoosh said...

Samuel, it was obvious he was taking the piss.

geoff, "96% of Canadians", eh? Use hyperbole much?

Me! said...

Might be time to fumigate, Brian. You seem to have a troll problem.

Brian said...

I've closed comments on this post, because things were getting too off-topic and too ugly. If anyone has anything to add regarding the original article, or to these study- or work-abroad programs, send me an email or hit me up on Facebook page.

There are several Korea blogs that are for the worse for letting their comment sections go off the deep end, so that's why I had to close up shop here.