Sunday, September 28, 2008

That's true, the Confederate flag is pretty sharp.

I've seen these bags all over the place for the past year or so, but had never known where to get them until today, when I happened across "Super Star" in Old Downtown.




They feature what is commonly known as "The Confederate Flag," a symbol of the Confederate States of America, although Wikipedia points out that that particular design was never an official flag of the short-lived nation. Highly unlikely that anybody here knows what that flag is, or what it represents, but it's still troublesome all the same. I don't think it should fly over government offices, and I don't think it should be in the hands of Korean middle school students. Wikipedia has a little more:
The display of the Confederate flag remains a highly controversial and emotional topic, generally because of disagreement over the nature of its symbolism. Opponents of the Confederate flag see it as an overt symbol of racism, both for the history of racial slavery in the United States, and the establishment of Jim Crow laws by Southern states following the end of Reconstruction in late 1870s, enforcing racial segregation within state borders for nearly a century until the Civil Rights Movement.

. . .
White southerners often see the flag as merely a symbol of southern culture, a "country music flag" without any political or racial connotation. An example of this would be the Bocephus Rebel Flag often sold at concerts performed by country music star Hank Williams, Jr., and southern rock band Lynyrd Skynyrd. For some, the flag represents only a past era of southern sovereignty. Some historical societies such as the Sons of Confederate Veterans and the United Daughters of the Confederacy also use the flag as part of their symbols. Also rockabilly fans hold the Confederate flag as their emblem. The flag has also been used as a symbol of generalized working-class masculinity, suggesting rowdy rebelliousness, and detached from any intended historical, Southern regional, or racial significance, although almost always in a white context, such as construction workers in Montreal.

As a result of these varying perceptions, there have been a number of political controversies surrounding the use of the Confederate flag in Southern state flags, at sporting events, at Southern universities, and on public buildings. According to Civil War historian and native Southerner Shelby Foote, the flag traditionally represented the South's resistance to Northern political dominance; it became racially charged during the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 1960s, when fighting against desegregation suddenly became the focal point of that resistance.

The bags say "Icekeki," which I thnk is a clothing line, and must be available at a bunch of different stores, because I don't think bags from a little out-of-the-way boutique in Suncheon would turn up in other cities like Gwangju.

12 comments:

david said...

Doesn't Ae-ske-ki in Korean mean "lifting up a girls skirt", as they do in middle school? Ask your students...

I get your point about the flag. But just laugh, dude, its Korea. It is a hall of mirrors -- Look how funny everything looks! That's it, forget what you saw 10 minutes ago.

Now the Steelers, on the other hand...Now that's important sh*t.

Brian said...

So I take it you watch the games here? How? I used to use TVU back during the 2006 season, but then most of the major channels got blocked. I can't really watch the games live, but would love to know if there's a way to watch games at my leisure on Monday or during the week. The Steelers or the big college football games.

david said...

download via torrent:
http://leech.tenyardtorrents.com
You can get most a few hours after they are done. I got the Dallas game (for a friend) last week at 5 MB per second.

Or watch live:
http://www.justin.tv/russ_tundra

Robert Koehler said...

You know, once, I saw the Stars and Bars draped on the back window of a bus in Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania.

No, really, I did.

Of course, I once also saw a Tanzanian walking around with an Islanders jersey. Pat LaFontaine on the back, if I recall.

Brian said...

I don't want Korean middle school students walking around in Islanders jerseys, either.

I saw a lot of Pittsburgh Pirates memorabilia this weekend and last. Proving that Koreans must not know what the logos mean, because no sensible person would want to do anything to support that ball club.

Simning said...

"Icekeki" is a little piece of Japingrish which is used by older Koreans. It means icecream. However, it used when flipping up a little girl's skirt to expose her underwear. Usually this is done by a female family member and NOT by the twenty-something male English teacher from a Western country.

Brian said...

Ah, neat bit of trivia there, thanks.

I saw these all over the place and was looking for them online a few months ago. There's also a movie called "Icekeki," a family-friendly movie, and Icekeki is also, I'm pretty sure, a clothing line.

Simon said...

I saw a guy with a Nazi symbol on the back of his shirt a few months back. And no, before someone says it, it wasn't the Buddhist swastika -this was a full on Nazi eagle clutching a swastika in a wreath. How oblivious about world history do you have to be to miss that one?

Simning said...

I remeber the mid-eighties saw a huge boom in sales of Imperial Japanese flags in the form of bandanas, t-shirts and patches. They were everywhere.

How oblivious about world history do you have to be to miss that one?

I guess it goes both ways.

david said...

"Icekeki"
Yeah, I guess it would look sort of like an ice cream cone.

:)

Brian said...

I saw the Nazi shirt, too, and put a photo of it up on this post: http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2008/05/remembering.html

Lots more Nazi fun in the "Nazis in Korea" category, available on the right side of the page.

Brian said...

Yeah, the Imperial Flag still turns up from time to time in the West.

http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2008/01/kosuke-fukudome-invasion-begins-this.html

I cringe when I remember the Yankees were calling Alex Rodriguez's homeruns "A-bombs." Another star player on the team is Hideki Matsui.

Like I said, these clothing stores have no idea what the flags mean, and are just being ignorant, not racist. But---and we can say this about the bad English we see here, too---if you're gonna spend thousands of dollars to print up a logo and thousands of bags, why not spend three minutes on the internet to figure out where that design you stole came from?