Friday, November 26, 2010

Talk of public schools phasing out native speaker English teachers.

I received a message about this last month via twitter, but until recently hadn't had any corroboration, though according to active threads on Dave's ESL Cafe and Waygook.org, schools will drastically cut the number of native speaker English teachers over the next several years. The sources remain, for now, largely Korean coteachers, but, if true, it is a story worth following. The six-page thread on Dave's ESL Cafe begins in Gyeonggi-do with GEPIK:
A few weeks ago I recall being at a bar when one of my friends mentioned a GEPIK coordinator gave notice that there were massive budget cuts, and all schools in Goyang with more than one teacher would lose half of their budget.

Didn't hear much about it since then, until yesterday.

Apparently they want to slash the number of NETs in Goyang down to 20 for all elementary schools, as there isn't a budget for English like there was 2/3 years ago.

For all the nay-sayers that will claim this is a bluff, that they will not 'fire' us, that isn't what they are doing. Instead they will phase us out and not renew our contracts. In doing that, they can tell the moms anything they want.

Has anyone else heard of this? I know I only mentioned Goyang but are there other cities that are also affected?

The thread continues with news and rumors about budget cuts and non-renewals elsewhere in the province.

Waygook.org's "The end of Native Teachers" thread beginning on November 24th looks at other provinces and cities. jehall writes:
Hey my co-teacher just told me that she got word today from GEPIK that they will begin decrasing the Native English teachers they bring in as they are now near the point where they believe they have enough Korean teachers in the system who speak fluent English. She said next year's batch of Native English teachers will be much less than this years and the plan is to phase them out completely in the next 3 years.

And Janitor:
Yes, I had heard that by 2014 Busan will stop hiring foreigners to work in the public schools. Ulsan has already started training Korean teachers to replace foreign teachers but will probably wait until Busan stops hiring before they do anything. Last year, I did my open class alone and was told that it was the same for the part-time "English Language Professionals"

We will see what happens. Again, by not hiring foreign teachers the school systems will saving a lot of money and you know where most of the MOE's heart are. Certainly not with the quality of language acquisition.

And honeymooners:
We in Gangwon-do recently had a talk from our regional coordinator. She said there will be a 10% decrease in teachers next year, I think 30% year after and 40% year after (total reductions).

I've written about the phasing-out of native speaker English teachers [NSETs] a few times, and pointed to things like the hiring of Korean English "lecturers" with greater English proficiency; the future adoption of a "practical English" exam; the use of less expensive English teachers from outside the "Big Seven" countries; the wide gap between the "teach for tests" method and what NSETs bring and represent to English education; and the general complaints among academics and journalists about NSETs' ineffeciency, unprofessionalism, and cost, all as evidence of the trend. If this proves to be correct, and the number of sources from across the country leads me to believe it is, than this severe lack of future job security for NSETs---in an industry already greatly lacking in it---will serve as motivation for inexperienced applicants to either boost their credentials or qualifications for positions that even value them, or to reconsider a year abroad in South Korea altogether.

23 comments:

Breda said...

I heard the same thing from a fellow GEPIK teacher. Said schools may not rehire the English teachers next year if they don't think they're getting much use from them. I checked with GEPIK and they said yes they're phasing you out, we already told you that at orientation, but didn't give any details.

Chris in South Korea said...

OK, folks, relax. For starters, your jobs as English teachers are not in immediate danger. Keep doing your best, be professional, yadda yadda yadda.

So what if the public schools are phasing jobs out? You think hagwons are suddenly going to stop teaching English? Nah - there will be more jobs than ever.

Sophie said...

I went to GEPIK orientation in Autumn this year and we were told that this year will be the year with the biggest number of NSETs being employed by GEPIK. The number of NSETs will begin to decrease from next year, with less people being hired and some contracts not being renewed. This came from GEPIK coordinators so presumably isn't just gossip/ scaremongering.

Also, I have a friend who works for GEPIK in Anyang and his position is being fazed out as their is another foreign teacher at his school. His co-teacher told him that many schools that have more than one NSET will lose their extra teacher(s) due to the lack of money for English education. Luckily, he didn't want to renew his contract though.

TWEffect said...

The entire purpose of having Native English speakers in public schools is to serve as an equalizer for poor students whose parents can't send them to an English hagwon that has a native English speaker.

Hagwons aren't going to stop hiring us and Korean parents are still going to want us. Phasing us out addressed NONE of these conflicts.

Doesn't affect me. I'm an awesome teacher and my schools love me. I would rather there were few of us here if it meant only the good teachers were getting renewed.

Unknown said...

The Waygook Effect + 1

Here's my two cents:

SMOE and GEPIK have been run/are still run by idiots (which is embarrassing considering their location/size) but that's nothing new out here I guess...

The other thing to remember (this also applies to all the hub-bub about robots) is that while we are meant to be a transition, they are in no way ready to phase us out completely. The principals aren't ready to change the system massively yet as they depend on the offices and the parents input. The parents are only concerned with the exam, so until that changes, the current method of teaching English (reading, grammar translation) will still be the main way to go. This means the teachers will do what has always been done which means that the majority of students will still remain practically non-fluent. There will still be a driving need for teachers who can a) demonstrate real and practical English b) a reason to study English and c) satisfy the parents who know (perhaps rightfully in many cases) that the Korean English teachers can't/won't be able to teach their children fluent English. That's not to say that some Korean English teachers can't do it but the system is limiting most (and the rest couldn't do it even if they wanted to).

However, budgets are budgets and I can see some contracts not getting renewed, but not en masse. Maybe that might be a good thing though. I think folks should worry more about how they are perceived and the results they are achieving. There are a lot of clowns who have slipped through the cracks who shouldn't be here and I bet those folks will be the first to go if anything. That might help provide the greatest return on their investment if you ask me.

Chanel said...

Well Cheongju (the 'City of Education') is still hiring... if people are worried about losing their jobs, they should apply to come here. We are only located only an hour and a half south of Seoul and currently about 60 teachers (public school only) live here.. there are many more foreigners in hagwons and other private institutes :)

The Expat said...

I think this trend is more pervasive than many realize.

http://asktheexpat.blogspot.com/2010/11/hiring-trends-in-adult-language.html

brent said...

I saw the papers. 18% of teachers are being cut. If a school has 2 teachers or it's a small school, they will be the first to go.

They mislead the parents. They think one native speaker at a school equals 100% coverage. At my high school, I only see one grade. That leaves two grades without access to a native speaker. The higher ups are tools. That's just what the Korean teachers think.

Walter Foreman said...

Food for thought... The number of students in Korean schools has been dropping constantly for the past five years (perhaps a function of the low birthrate, but I'm not sure). This drop in student enrollment could be one reason for a reduction in the number of (native-English-speaking) teachers. Fewer students means fewer teachers (native-speaking and otherwise), right? Let's see...


Total # of students:
2005: 11,993,234
2006: 11,915,021
2007: 11,883,628
2008: 11,765,542
2009: 11,623,759
Chng: -369,475

Nearly 370,000 fewer students in 2009 than in 2005. That's a fairly significant reduction. However...

Total # of schools:
2005: 19,586
2006: 19,793
2007: 19,865
2008: 20,051
2009: 20,163
Chng: +577

Over 575 more schools in 2009 than in 2005 (and with nearly 370,000 fewer students attending school!). Plus...

Total # of teachers:
2005: 484,573
2006: 496,338
2007: 506,682
2008: 518,673
2009: 527,551
Chng: +42,978

Nearly 43,000 more teachers in 2009 than in 2005, teaching nearly 370,000 fewer students, with more than 575 new schools.

More schools (577), fewer students (369,475), plus more teachers (42, 978) should mean smaller class sizes. A great opportunity to have more direct and meaningful instruction with students. Too bad the government is reducing the number of NESTs.

Also, most of this talk of reductions has been from GEPIK and SMOE. Could this mean that more hiring (and possibly administration) will be done by EPIK? As I see it, that would be a good thing.

All of my stats come from 교육통계서비스. They don't have an English site, but they do refer to themselves in English as: Center for Education Statistics. They do not allow non-Koreans to register as site members. When entering my name in English I received an error message, in Korean, that said: "Domestic names in Hanguel only."

So I tried again with my name in Korean. To that I received the following error message (again, in Korean): "The real-name verification service has returned an error while processing your request. Please contact customer service. Error information: You have entered an alien registration number."

I think they'll be getting a letter from my lawyer. I'm a permanent resident of Korea (F5 visa) and a visiting professor at a top national university of education in Korea and I can't have full access to this site? RIDICULOUS!

On the bright side, I can order pizza from Domino's Pizza on my iPhone in Korea. LOL.

3gyupsal said...

Yeah the number of NETs in public schools is more now than it ever has been, so it makes sense that folks will get phased out. But once all of those people are gone those schools might want to make some after school programs. So that could be rather lucrative for the people who are still here. (The local education boards don't pay for after school classes, parents do, so the funding will be there as long as the parents are happy.) The days of 50,000-100,000 won an hour over time might return.

3gyupsal said...

Yeah the number of NETs in public schools is more now than it ever has been, so it makes sense that folks will get phased out. But once all of those people are gone those schools might want to make some after school programs. So that could be rather lucrative for the people who are still here. (The local education boards don't pay for after school classes, parents do, so the funding will be there as long as the parents are happy.) The days of 50,000-100,000 won an hour over time might return.

C.W. Bush said...

Based on the level of English spoken by most Korean teachers I've encountered leads me to believe their definition of 'fluent' is an incredibly liberal one...

J said...

Is this only for GEPIK? If you go to the EPIK website, they actually extended the deadline for applications because of the "increased demands" of the offices of Education. It all seems very strange.

kushibo said...

SMOE and GEPIK have been run/are still run by idiots

Purely speculative, but it sounds like this reflects more of a shift from where teachers will be hired rather than an overall reduction in teacher hires (and you should remember you are being hired or re-hired with every contract).

Could it possibly be that someone recognizes the problems of the GEPIK program, for example, and they are trying to phase out them as a primary hirer of teachers? Just wondering, not saying.

bingbing said...

Brian, O/T

My Korean gf reckons she saw stuff on the internet about a number of SK parliamentarians having not done military service, including Lee Myung-bak.

Common reason? Mental problems.

Also, ex defence chief was a career military man.

Also, many SK's are saying 2MB didn't have the right to fire (accept resignation from) him.

We've been searching unsuccessfully for links.

Any chance you or the other K-bloggers could find some, confirm or debunk this?

Unknown said...

Kushibo, yeah...I based my statement on the fact that I worked in GEPIK for a year. Based on my experiences there, I am quite confident that there were some things in need of fixing (an approachable coordinator who actually contacts the teachers for example). SMOE had the whole bribery/massive reassignment of jobs because of the whole corruption thing a while ago. It's easy to have a scapegoat to take the fall but I think because of the global economic mess, even Korea is destined for some cutbacks or sorts.

If the parents desires can be changed, I think they'll definitely aim to hire the cheapest possible worker. It'll take time to change their minds though. I suppose KSW and crew will be pushing all the positives of hiring outside of the big 7.

Bingbing, I remember reading something about how 2MB lied about his children so that they could go to a better school. I still find his call for a "fair society" the most hypocritical statement I've heard in years. I can say that many Korean men try to find ways to duck out of doing military service and one of them is with having bad teeth. Something to do with not being able to eat and not being fit for service. They say that MC Mong is in trouble for lying about that...

matt said...

According to a November 23 Yonhap article, out of 2,183 elementary, middle and high schools in Gyeonggi-do, 2032 have 2,256 native speaking teachers working for them, and next year 200 (or 8.8%) will be cut. The article mentions that they plan to rely more on Korean teachers, and that they already have equivalent of 1 teacher per 1 school.

There are a few other articles about this, mostly saying the same thing. One I can't find now had complaints from parents about the decision.

GRRRL TRAVELER said...

... and then we'll eventually have the robots compete with! NETs working from home (cost-effective solution there!)

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2010/03/123_59809.html

bingbing said...

Cheers, Mark. Isn't it funny when MC Mong gets busted but the busters, if you will, get away with it.

That's just funny and not even my problem. It sucks NSETs are being made the fall guy.

I'll be on F2 soon, so its technically not my problem, but there are systemic flaws in the system over here that need fixing, but which are not being addressed... at the expense of the solution to their problem.

Anonymous said...

My school told me that in Seongnam 8 positions would be cut. When I asked how they would decide who would not be rehired, they told me that it would probably only affect schools that had more than one native English teacher (as Brent has already pointed out).

When I asked why, I was told that it was for budgetary reasons, namely that there has been a move to make school lunch free for all students (I thought it already was), and by doing so they will need to make cuts elsewhere. Hope this helps.

Walter Foreman said...

I'm pretty close to one of the "higher-ups" in EPIK. I asked that person about the truth of the recent NEST reduction rumors. Here is that person's response:

"It is not easy to reduce the number of NTs soon because most parents want to have more NTs in their schools. Parents are voters, so politicians don't dare reject their requests. However, according to the long term plan, the government is considering reducing the number of NTs. However, nobody knows when. At least during President Lee's administration it won't happen. Maybe the next President??? Koreans have a high fever for English, so it is not possible to reduce NTs until the government prepares a strong alternative to persuade the parents."
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Interesting! I wonder what the "strong alternative" might be? Robots? LOL

Unknown said...

Yeah bingbing it seems if you have enough money or connections anywhere, you can get away with a lot. I bet even if MC Mong were to get nailed for what he did, it'll be a slap on the wrist. Might be the end of his career but yeah...

I hate being the fall guy too which is why I do my best to walk on egg shells. I refuse to give them ammo to work with. I also watch carefully so when they make mistakes, I can counter with my own barrage.

Fear and hate are powerful distractors and manipulators and most politicians anywhere know how to use those to their advantage. Sad really...

Unknown said...

The hand-wringing from mostly untrained and inexperienced "foreign assistant teachers" (the official title of native English speaking teachers) is becoming impalpable. Being an assistant teacher is certainly not meant to be a career here in Korea. The intention was always that you were temporary. Native English teachers are used to give exposure to Korean students the English language. Those who have studied second language acquisition know that exposure to English is necessary for acquisition. Exposure is definitely beneficial to younger students who may still have access to the language acquisition device or universal grammar (UG).

It does not matter where this come from; it can come from native and non-native speakers alike. In many countries there are no native speakers in the schools, yet, students manage to become proficient learners of English. It has all to do with competent, trained and professional teachers in the classroom. In Korea, the big problem has to do with teachers not using English in the classroom. When the decision-makers, educators and parents in Korea get it in their fat heads that English should be used in the classroom by the Korean teacher most of the time, nothing will change. Korean students will continue to lag behind the rest of the world in English language proficiency.

Native speakerism, the belief that native speakers are the only ones suited to teach their own language, has been criticized by many experts in language teaching. If a teacher is competent, it does not matter whether he or she is a native speaker or not. Many on this blog think they are entitled to teach just because they are native speakers. This is sad. It is also sad that Koreans have fallen for this claptrap.

If you are fearful about losing your position as a native speaking English teacher, you need to look inward. Are you being professional and competent? Are you professionally developing yourself proactively? Are you participating in professional organizations that would further your sense of belonging to a profession? If you may deserve not to be rehired. If you are being professional and competent, you should have no fear: you can get another job anywhere in the world. You don't need Korea and its lax requirements for English language teaching.

It is time to separate the wheat from the chaff.