Dear Precious GETs,
Greetings,
This is (NAME), the English Coordinator at Daejeon Metropolitan Office of Education. Recently, I got a phone call from the Police Officer (Daejeon District Prosecutors' Office) in Daejeon City and warned me that several groups of native people that gathered to smoke marijuana, especially among elementary GETs in Daejeon city. The police will request a list of schools in Daejeon so can start an investigation through a urine test among GETs. As you know, in Korea, as well as generic drugs, smoking marijuana is also illegal. If a person is arrested due to smoking marijuana, he/she will have a full legal responsibility and be deported from South Korea. Thank you for your attention.
By the way,
Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year !!!
Wonder if that's a result of the Quincy Black sex videos recently out of Daejeon, which prompted inquiries into the "qualifications" and ethics of native speaker English teachers.
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Now would be a good time for Ben or any other similarly knowledgeable person to point readers in the direction of what their rights are vis-à-vis mandatory drug testing.
My layperson's understanding of this is that without having reasonable suspicion of someone having taken drugs or being involved in some other illegal activity, the police cannot compel you to take a drug test as part of their investigation.
Requiring all teachers to get a drug test to obtain or renew a visa is one thing, but compelling people to comply with a criminal investigation simply because of their foreign teacher status is another. If I'm correct that the police have no business compelling blanket drug testing of all teachers, then ATEK and their allies should get behind this and make a statement that this should not be tolerated. But nicely and professionally worded.
f I'm correct that the police have no business compelling blanket drug testing of all teachers
That's my understanding as well. If they have a reason/evidence that may point to you specifically, then they can compel you to give a sample as part of their investigation.
But they can't just go on a fishing expedition by rounding up everyone who happens to be a teacher and testing them.
I don't think we (the blogging community) should be defending people who are using illegal drugs in South Korea. HIV testing is one thing (you can still lead a normal life if you have it and you have a right to work), but drugs are completely different.
Yes, they have no right to compel blanket drug tests... but who is stupid enough to be taking illegal drugs in South Korea while working in a public school? These are probably people we don't want living and working here to begin with and they are most likely doing more damage to the foreigner community's reputation than good.
I have zero sympathy for these idiots and I want them found and deported. This is South Korea. Don't come here if you can't go a year without smoking a joint.
I don't think we (the blogging community) should be defending people who are using illegal drugs in South Korea. HIV testing is one thing (you can still lead a normal life if you have it and you have a right to work), but drugs are completely different.
Yes, they have no right to compel blanket drug tests... but who is stupid enough to be taking illegal drugs in South Korea while working in a public school? These are probably people we don't want living and working here to begin with and they are most likely doing more damage to the foreigner community's reputation than good.
I have zero sympathy for these idiots and I want them found and deported. This is South Korea. Don't come here if you can't go a year without smoking a joint.
Wow that letter has such a polite tone to it. For Daejon NET's give the gift of piss in a cup to the Daejon police department this holiday season. Remember that when you fill the cup, aim isn't that important.
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Remember that when you fill the cup, aim isn't that important.
Y'ever done a drug test? Aim's important if you're the one holding the cup!
Dave's thread got pulled.
Brian wrote:
Dave's thread got pulled.
What does that mean then? I rarely go into Dave's ESL Café and I've never followed a thread there, so I'm not sure if that means that they got new information, the discussion got out of hand, it turned out the letter was a hoax, etc.
What likely happened is it got moved into their moderator-only forum because discussion was getting out of hand. Threads commonly get locked or deleted with no explanation there.
Okay. I guess that's possible.
But after you told me it got pulled, I started looking at the letter with more scrutiny, and it seems at least plausible that it's a hoax.
Brian said:What likely happened is it got moved into their moderator-only forum because discussion was getting out of hand. Threads commonly get locked or deleted with no explanation there.
Couldn't agree more. I couple of weeks ago when anxiety was up on the NK situation I started a thread w/ links to a couple of interesting lectures on NK (both professors).
I thought the lectures were a nice break from the constant trading back and forth of the usual perpectives.
The thread was locked almost immediately by a mod there minus, of course, any explanation, comment on why.
When you add in the almost constant sniping and misinformation in the forum it's a place I go to only reluctantly. I guess I should add that my epxerience in a few other international forums on Dave's are a lot more civil.
It sounds a bit like the H1N1 panic. Some low level officials some various places decided it was "prudent" to collect lists of dirty foreigners who might be infected with H1N1. If not a hoax (one guy got a call from someone claiming to be a cop and not, oh, an anti-english spectrum marginal type), then easily ignored.
I really don't how far the police's ability to test people goes, but a few years ago the police walked into a certain bar in Itaewon and made everyone give a piss test before they could leave. The (Korean) owner had been arrested several times for smoking pot, and the police seemed to believe that suspicion fell on everyone in the bar at that time.
Word verification: bansai
Y'ever done a drug test? Aim's important if you're the one holding the cup!
I have done drug tests and if you cut off the stream after you put the cup down, you can have yourself a nice little Andres Serrano appreciation party around the walls of the Dajeon police station.
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Brian said:What likely happened is it got moved into their moderator-only forum because discussion was getting out of hand. Threads commonly get locked or deleted with no explanation there.
Couldn't agree more. I couple of weeks ago when anxiety was up on the NK situation I started a thread w/ links to a couple of interesting lectures on NK (both professors).
I thought the lectures were a nice break from the constant trading back and forth of the usual perpectives.
The thread was locked almost immediately by a mod there minus, of course, any explanation, comment on why.
When you add in the almost constant sniping and misinformation in the forum it's a place I go to only reluctantly. I guess I should add that my epxerience in a few other international forums on Dave's are a lot more civil.
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