Rolling Stone points us to a page on All Access Korea with information about an upcoming Guns n' Roses show in Seoul on December 13th. Tickets go on sale October 6th. Other stops on this little tour are Taipei, Osaka, and Tokyo. Hat tip to reader.
Quick question for any natives (or anyone who knows), would you pronounce the ㄴ from that poster that precedes the ㄹ (앤로)? The defacto rule says you should pronounce the ㄴ as a ㄹ, but do foreign-based words not have to follow that? I just find it so odd that it's written like that, because the n sound wouldn't be pronounced the way it's written.
The same goes with other words like 업로드 (which would be pronounced 엄노드). If they are pronounced according to Korean rules, it just doesn't make sense to write it that way. Wouldn't it make sense for it to be 건즈애느로지스 (or just add spaces between the ㄴ and ㄹ) or 어브로드 so that the word actually sounds like the original?
That is one rule, as far as I'm aware, that isn't hard and fast.
...앤로... could also be pronounced ...앤노..., which would also be off.
I think some of the truncated Hangulizations that end up producing uniquely Korean sound changes (your example of upload, but also "home run" as "home nun," etc) are because of a desire to keep things short when everybody knows what they're talking about. 호므런 just wouldn't roll off the tongue.
Been following this on my site since I first heard the rumours a few weeks ago.
The current lineup is:
Vocals: Axl Rose Bass: Tommy Stinson Keyboards: Dizzy Reed Guitar: Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal Guitar: DJ Ashba Guitar: Richard Fortus Keyboards/Other stuff: Chris Pitman Drums: Frank Ferrer
Yeah it isn't the old band, but many of these guys have been in Guns N' Roses much longer than Slash an co. were, and having seen almost every version of the band live before (Never saw Steven Adler, but I have seen every lineup since Matt Sorum joined), the new band are MUCH better.
Oh... I should add. The band have not confirmed these dates yet (They are also rumoured to be playing Taiwan and Japan), but they have not denied them either... AND they are rehearsing in LA, so it would look like this will happen.
But... in 2001 I bought tickets for a show in London that ended up being cancelled because nobody had bothered to check that the band were touring - the management simply went ahead and booked a tour. Until there is official word from the band, buying these tickets is a gamble, but it is one that I am prepared to take.
Thanks for that information, Mike. Just curious, what's your site?
The prices seems pretty high. I got a Facebook message about Beyonce tickets being offerd for 100,000 won . . . they ordinarily go for, like, 150,000 or more. Don't the GnR prices seem way out of wack? What do rock concerts normally cost here?
The prices do seem steep, and GN'R shows are not usually out of step with others. London tickets in 2006 were around 40 pounds (80,000w).
I am not sure how much Metallica cost when they came here, but I know that Clapton was pretty steep.
Billy Joel was here last year, and his tickets were around the 80,000 mark and upwards, so going by that standard, yes they are pretty steep.
The thing is - this is the first GN'R show in Korea, and it may well be that the promoters can set the price. They are quite popular here (or rather, November Rain is). According to rumour, they are getting $750,000 for the Taiwan show. If they are getting a similar amount for Korea, for a venue that holds 15,000, then $50 per ticket is to pay the band... then there are the other expenses (such as hiring the venue) to take into account.
Anyway... the prices are actually in line with the rest of the Asian tour. Sure it will be cheaper to see them in the US/Europe, but the average cost of moving a stage from City to City in the US or Europe for a 20 date tour is much less than flying it to Asia for 4 shows :)
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Quick question for any natives (or anyone who knows), would you pronounce the ㄴ from that poster that precedes the ㄹ (앤로)? The defacto rule says you should pronounce the ㄴ as a ㄹ, but do foreign-based words not have to follow that? I just find it so odd that it's written like that, because the n sound wouldn't be pronounced the way it's written.
The same goes with other words like 업로드 (which would be pronounced 엄노드). If they are pronounced according to Korean rules, it just doesn't make sense to write it that way. Wouldn't it make sense for it to be 건즈애느로지스 (or just add spaces between the ㄴ and ㄹ) or 어브로드 so that the word actually sounds like the original?
That is one rule, as far as I'm aware, that isn't hard and fast.
...앤로... could also be pronounced ...앤노..., which would also be off.
I think some of the truncated Hangulizations that end up producing uniquely Korean sound changes (your example of upload, but also "home run" as "home nun," etc) are because of a desire to keep things short when everybody knows what they're talking about. 호므런 just wouldn't roll off the tongue.
Does the poster say who the line-up in the band is?
Please update with more details as available! Would love to go :)
Been following this on my site since I first heard the rumours a few weeks ago.
The current lineup is:
Vocals: Axl Rose
Bass: Tommy Stinson
Keyboards: Dizzy Reed
Guitar: Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal
Guitar: DJ Ashba
Guitar: Richard Fortus
Keyboards/Other stuff: Chris Pitman
Drums: Frank Ferrer
Yeah it isn't the old band, but many of these guys have been in Guns N' Roses much longer than Slash an co. were, and having seen almost every version of the band live before (Never saw Steven Adler, but I have seen every lineup since Matt Sorum joined), the new band are MUCH better.
Oh... I should add. The band have not confirmed these dates yet (They are also rumoured to be playing Taiwan and Japan), but they have not denied them either... AND they are rehearsing in LA, so it would look like this will happen.
But... in 2001 I bought tickets for a show in London that ended up being cancelled because nobody had bothered to check that the band were touring - the management simply went ahead and booked a tour. Until there is official word from the band, buying these tickets is a gamble, but it is one that I am prepared to take.
Thanks for that information, Mike. Just curious, what's your site?
The prices seems pretty high. I got a Facebook message about Beyonce tickets being offerd for 100,000 won . . . they ordinarily go for, like, 150,000 or more. Don't the GnR prices seem way out of wack? What do rock concerts normally cost here?
Ranting Englishman (yonguksaram.com).
The prices do seem steep, and GN'R shows are not usually out of step with others. London tickets in 2006 were around 40 pounds (80,000w).
I am not sure how much Metallica cost when they came here, but I know that Clapton was pretty steep.
Billy Joel was here last year, and his tickets were around the 80,000 mark and upwards, so going by that standard, yes they are pretty steep.
The thing is - this is the first GN'R show in Korea, and it may well be that the promoters can set the price. They are quite popular here (or rather, November Rain is). According to rumour, they are getting $750,000 for the Taiwan show. If they are getting a similar amount for Korea, for a venue that holds 15,000, then $50 per ticket is to pay the band... then there are the other expenses (such as hiring the venue) to take into account.
Anyway... the prices are actually in line with the rest of the Asian tour. Sure it will be cheaper to see them in the US/Europe, but the average cost of moving a stage from City to City in the US or Europe for a 20 date tour is much less than flying it to Asia for 4 shows :)
Tickets went on sale at 12 today. I got mine :)
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